Miranda IM v0.7.0 Preview Release #1 Discussion - Miranda IM

rainwater · #1 14 Aug 2007, 3:50 AM

Miranda IM v0.7.0 Preview Release #1 is now available. This preview release is meant for TESTING PURPOSES ONLY. Due to major changes in the database structure, it is HIGHLY recommended that you backup your database before installing. The preview release cycle is meant to address any outstanding issues before any final release to the public. Any feedback you can provide is greatly appreciated.

This release implements an entirely rewritten backend to improve internationalization support. It is therefore highly recommended to run DBTool and use the new "Convert old Unicode messages to UTF8" feature. Also note that some plugins are no longer compatible with this release and onwards and will not be loaded by the core. Please contact the author of these plugins requesting they be updated.

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Ok... since apparently no one is reading what has been written so far, this is what will gonna happen:

all questions like "Why wasn't this or that plugin included in this build?" will be DELETED...
Reason: They were not included because they're not stable and needs developing... also that's how WE do releases here and don't tell me you didn't know about it...
This is what Rainwater has to say in this matter:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainwater

As for files not in the build, they were never intended to be in the release. However, we have not done a good job of distinguishing that. For the final release, we will make sure all the files are updated on the file listing before the release. Also, we will most likely add direct links to these files as "Recommended Plugins" directly from the download page.

for the plugins that was not included - download 0.7 #36 build and take it from there for now...
if you found a bug and you are ABSOLUTELY positive it's a bug - post it to the bugtracker with a VersionInfo and a dr Watson Crash report...
if you only think you found a bug - post it here... the above rules still apply though... bugreports without VersionInfo and/or crash report will be DELETED...

Sorry for the harsh approach but otherwise you guys will never learn...

Warning: SOME plugins from the Addons page will not load with this build... this is normal... It's due to some important changes in the core or due to the fact that those plugins were merged with the core... if this happens to you make sure to have all your plugins up to date or check point nr 2 above...

The following plugins has been blocked:

IcoLib (merged with core)
FontService (merged with core)
png2dib.dll (replaced with advaimg.dll)
loadavatars.dll (replaced with avs.dll)
some older plugins that directly deal with messages and history - older versions of tabSRMM, Scriver, History++, nConvers, nHistory, Help, Nicer Contact list...

andrewabc · #2 14 Aug 2007, 4:10 AM

I'm no expert, but a changelog between RC and last dev build would be nice.

http://files.miranda-im.org/builds/ChangeLog.txt
has not changed

EDIT:
From readme.txt

Quote:

1. New in this version
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* New in 0.7
Enhancements:
- TDB
Bugfixes:
- TBD

Too long of a list? :P

rainwater · #3 14 Aug 2007, 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewabc

I'm no expert, but a changelog between RC and last dev build would be nice.

http://files.miranda-im.org/builds/ChangeLog.txt
has not changed

The changelog is updated now.

andrewabc · #4 14 Aug 2007, 4:27 AM

Thanks. Also I like the new changelog format. Easier to read.

YtseJam · #5 14 Aug 2007, 5:33 AM

Does anyone have links for the rest of the plug-ins in a usual nighty, re-built for RC1?

rainwater · #6 14 Aug 2007, 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YtseJam

That said, does anyone have links for the rest of the plug-ins in a usual nighty, re-built for RC1?

There have been no changes to any non core files since the last test build.

4l-c0n1o · #7 14 Aug 2007, 8:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainwater

There have been no changes to any non core files since the last test build.

sure?... and this (change for tabsrmm, scriver, clistmodern...):

Code:

Révision: 6221
Auteur: ghazan
Date: 17:28:43, dimanche 12 août 2007
Commentaire:
also fix for Part messages in chats
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Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/chat/log.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/chat/log.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/tabsrmm/chat/log.c

Révision: 6220
Auteur: ghazan
Date: 17:26:13, dimanche 12 août 2007
Commentaire:
fix for printing Actions in chats
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Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/chat/log.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/chat/log.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/tabsrmm/chat/log.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/tabsrmm/chat/services.c

Révision: 6216
Auteur: the_leech
Date: 08:33:08, dimanche 12 août 2007
Commentaire:
fixes for character encoding in ANSI version (use EM_SETTEXTEX/ EM_GETTEXTEX in ANSI build, use correct code page to save and load messages)
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Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/msgdialog.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/msgs.h
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/sendqueue.c
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/sendqueue.h
Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/utils.c

Révision: 6205
Auteur: the_leech
Date: 15:37:30, samedi 11 août 2007
Commentaire:
fix for bug #0003410 (UTF messages destroyed by mir_utf8decode)
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Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/Scriver/sendqueue.c
Révision: 6170
Auteur: ashpynov
Date: 12:59:14, jeudi 9 août 2007
Commentaire:
status msg real fix
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Modifié : /trunk/miranda/plugins/modernb/clc.c

And more... (look the svn changelog)

;)

FYR · #8 14 Aug 2007, 8:11 AM

clist_modern and clist_nicer and some other nightly plugins are not and will not be in official release due to 2 major things:

1st - they do not fit miranda conception: "smaller, faster, etc..." cause they are not small, not fast, not simple etc.

2nd and IMHO major - the code of this plugins is not deeply reviewed by other developers, only by they own authors but it is not give any chances of bugs-free. Moreover as author of clist_modern I contend that Modern Contact List is buggy and code of it are very ugly and require deep review before any kind of 'release'. It is working because just it works...

About release of modern from nightly...
Latest version is not work with latest official miranda core release 0.6.8.
So i don't want to publish clist_modern on filelisting.

But as soon as 0.7 will be released - I will place it to FileListing.

Looks like clist_modern version will be the same as in nightly #36 (at least because SVN is locked for commiting for pre-release cycle).

d-buck · #9 14 Aug 2007, 8:41 AM

Quote:

It is therefore highly recommended to run DBTool and use the new “Convert old Unicode messages to UTF8″ feature.

I can't find this point in the DB Tool

Stig · #10 14 Aug 2007, 9:06 AM

At least updater plugin is incompatible with this. After clicking "Restart" in menu popup window "Update Error" will appear: "Miranda did not exist - cannot install or restart. Press 'try again' to check Miranda's status again, press 'Continue' to kill the process or press 'Cancel' to abort." (BTW, Updater didn't find this RC1 - I don't know should it.)

And clist_modern (newest nightly) still makes Miranda to freeze when "Disable skin engine" checked.