ICQ Protocol Discussion

[borkra]

Originally Posted by unandpw

I only have one contact and I don't give my number out.

If you have only 1 contact why not to use AIM to talk to it? AIM does support talking to ICQ contacts, sending/getting avatars & files, offline messages, etc. The only downside you have to rename locally icq number to contact name but that's it. I am using AIM to talk to all my ICQ contacts....

[DTiger]

Same problem here with all icq contact offline (I don't exactly when they started to be like that)
Everything else (on icq) is working fine. I can even talk and answer, I just never "see" them.

Any idea what I could try?

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13] [2 CPUs]
Installed RAM: 1024 MBytes
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP [version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3]
Shell: Explorer.exe, Internet Explorer 7.0.5730
Administrator privileges: Yes
OS Languages: (UI | Locale (User/System)) : English/English | English/English
Free disk space on Miranda partition: 4704 MBytes
Miranda path: O:\PortableApps\MirandaPortable\App\miranda
Miranda IM version: 0.8.9 Unicode
Build time: 22:06:49 on 21 October 2009
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Unicode core: Yes

Active Plugins (32):
¤ advaimg.dll v.0.8.0.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Miranda Image services
¤ avatarhistW.dll v.0.0.2.10 [26 Apr 2008] - Avatar History (Unicode)
¤ avs.dll v.0.8.0.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Avatar service (Unicode)
¤ chat.dll v.0.8.1.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Chat |Unicode aware|
¤ clist_modern.dll v.0.8.0.167 [16 Jun 2009] - Modern Contact List '08 |Unicode aware|
crashrpt.dll v.0.0.0.3 [23 Jan 2007] - Crash Report
dbeditorpp.dll v.3.1.3.6 [05 Aug 2006] - Database Editor++
¤ dbx_mmap.dll v.0.8.1.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Miranda mmap database driver |Unicode aware|
¤ Fingerprint.dll v.1.1.9.1 [15 Apr 2009] - Fingerprint Plus |Unicode aware|
¤ historyeventsW.dll v.0.0.0.8 [07 May 2008] - History Events (Unicode)
¤ historypp.dll v.1.5.1.3 [17 Feb 2009] - History++ (2in1)
¤ ICQ.dll v.0.5.0.11 [21 Oct 2009] - IcqOscarJ Protocol |Unicode aware|
¤ IRC.dll v.0.8.3.0 [21 Oct 2009] - IRC protocol |Unicode aware|
¤ jabber.dll v.0.8.6.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Jabber Protocol |Unicode aware|
¤ KeepStatus.dll v.0.0.2.92 [01 Mar 2008] - KeepStatus
mContacts.dll v.0.0.1.1 [21 Aug 2004] - mContacts
¤ modernopt.dll v.0.1.0.0 [18 May 2009] - Support for new options design |Unicode aware|
¤ msn.dll v.0.8.8.0 [21 Oct 2009] - MSN Protocol |Unicode aware|
mtextcontrola.dll v.0.0.2.0 [05 Jan 2007] - Miranda Text Control [build #484]
mtextcontrolw.dll v.0.0.2.0 [05 Jan 2007] - Miranda Text Control [build #484]
¤ mydetails.dll v.0.0.1.11 [13 Nov 2008] - My Details
NewStatusNotify.dll v.1.1.2.2 [13 Jul 2005] - NewStatusNotify
¤ nudge.dll v.0.0.1.19 [18 Apr 2008] - Nudge |Unicode aware|
¤ popup.dll v.2.1.0.7 [23 Mar 2008] - Popup Plus |Unicode aware|
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¤ StartupStatus.dll v.0.0.3.36 [26 Jan 2008] - StartupStatus
¤ svc_vi.dll v.1.4.3.3 [14 Apr 2008] - Version Information |Unicode aware|
¤ tabsrmm.dll v.2.2.1.16 [17 Jun 2009] - TabSRMM |Unicode aware|
¤ tipper.dll v.0.4.1.7 [30 Jan 2008] - Tipper |Unicode aware|
¤ uinfoexW.dll v.0.8.3.1 [30 Oct 2009] - UserInfoEx (Unicode)
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¤ Yahoo.dll v.0.8.3.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Yahoo Protocol |Unicode aware|

Unloadable Plugins (2):
help.dll v.0.1.2.2 [19 Dec 2006] - Help
Plugin does not have an UUID and will not work with Miranda 0.8.

mToolTip.dll v.0.0.1.6 [21 May 2006] - mToolTip
Plugin does not have an UUID and will not work with Miranda 0.8.

[Sami]

Originally Posted by DTiger

Active Plugins (32):
{287f31d5-147c-48bb-b428-d7c260272535} advaimg.dll v.0.8.0.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Miranda Image services
{dbe8c990-7aa0-458d-bab7-33eb07238e71} avatarhistW.dll v.0.0.2.10 [26 Apr 2008] - Avatar History (Unicode)
{e00f1643-263c-4599-b84b-053e5c511d29} avs.dll v.0.8.0.0 [21 Oct 2009] - Avatar service (Unicode)

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Please enable forum style formatting and disable UUIDs in options if you use Version Information plugin. Thanks.

[unandpw]

Originally Posted by borkra

If you have only 1 contact why not to use AIM to talk to it?

I considered that. It's probably what I'll do. Thanks.

[theultramage]

Originally Posted by Joe @ Whale

Nope, messaging packets are sent as offline that is possible in the protocol. OFT packets does not support that. This is protocol limitation not Miranda IM ICQ plugin limitation.

Okay. I wish to violate the protocol. Not caring if miranda freezes, nor caring if the remote server disconnects me. I want to know whether not having someone on my list (despite him being online and having me on his list) is enough to make the file transfer request fail.

PS: if I can talk to this person and he can talk to me, does that mean we're talking using offline messaging, even though both of us are online?

[Nergali di Cuthah]

Originally Posted by theultramage

Okay. I wish to violate the protocol. Not caring if miranda freezes, nor caring if the remote server disconnects me. I want to know whether not having someone on my list (despite him being online and having me on his list) is enough to make the file transfer request fail.

PS: if I can talk to this person and he can talk to me, does that mean we're talking using offline messaging, even though both of us are online?

Umm not Protocol as in "Procedure" Protocol is what each connection type (ICQ, AIM, MSN etc.) is called in miranda (and other im programs)
and to the P.S. yes, you are speaking to each other via ICQ's Offline messaging