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    Miranda portable not really portable.

    "Unable to start any of the installed contact list plugins. I even ignored your preferences, for which contact list couldn't load any."

    When moving from one machine to another.

    Has something to do with Clist modern vs classic.

    P.S. Is traditional Miranda portable to any degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Innomen View Post
    "Unable to start any of the installed contact list plugins. I even ignored your preferences, for which contact list couldn't load any."

    When moving from one machine to another.

    Has something to do with Clist modern vs classic.

    P.S. Is traditional Miranda portable to any degree?
    Yes, the original Miranda is portable. You may need to change the database location though. And if you modify the database itself a little bit, the program can even leave no trace in the registry. For the details please see the earlier threads, e.g.:

    http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthr...light=portable
    http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthr...light=portable

    The forum search or Google can help you find more:

    http://www.google.com/search?as_site...nda%20portable

    As for the release called "Miranda portable" which you seem to be talking about, the support forums are here:

    http://portableapps.com/support/miranda_portable

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    Thank you for actually helping me.

    Unfortunately the support forums for actual Miranda portable, are, unhelpful, to put it mildly.

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    I see :S

    Just one more note ... if you want to use 3rd party plugins, like clist_modern, please keep in mind that they sometimes require additional libraries which may be absent on the machine you want to use your Miranda on, and in that case the plugin may not load. Here's some more info on that (and a solution/workaround):

    http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthread.php?t=14278
    http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthread.php?t=15222

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    Thanks!

    That must have been it. Some dependency was not being met. Once XP finished updating the previously broken install came back to life. Thank you very much for your help.

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    Sorry for the bump, but I have an update...

    I encountered this problem again, and placing "msvcr71.dll" into the root application folder re-solved it. Just sharing. Thanks again for your help guys.

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    Yes, due to specific features, certain modules need additional libraries; in this particular case it's clist_modern that requires msvcr71.dll.

    Whenever an error pops regarding missing function/dependency, it's recommanded to run a Profiling of miranda32.exe through Dependency Walker, find out the missing libraries, grab and place them in Miranda's main folder.

    If the above procedure still doesn't fix the issue, then please report it with as many details as possible (including Dependency Walker log, when necessary) so we can fix it a.s.a.p.

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    Is there any reason you could not simply include these dlls in future versions of Miranda thus working around the problem altogether? Something like copyright issues?

    I personally don't have a problem anymore.

    I appreciate your help, on behalf of others with he same issues. I'm going to update soon I'm sure I'll break something :)

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    We do not include these dlls because they do not needed for official distribution. They are required by some plugins compiled by developers. If you want to use such you need to install extra dlls.

    These plugins are not actually part of Miranda but independent contribution by 3rd party.

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    To me plugin functionality is app functionality.

    Imagine what it would be like with firefox if you had a crash every time you loaded a plugin because some file was missing. If it were up to me I'd either force a plugin compliance standard that precludes te need for the dlls or I'd include the dlls with the main app.

    At the very least the error message could be more clear. "x file missing" or some such.

    my 2 cents

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