Miranda IM v0.8.0 Build #2 Discussion

**-pv-** · 22 Nov 2007, 7:20 PM

Hello guys,
Currently we are somewhere at the begining of this 0.8 branch. I would like to bring accessibility in to your attention once more time. I have got some replies which sound promising so I have tryed to sum up all the accessibility issues I am aware. Here is the thread on it: http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthread.php?p=138317
I know we are expecting some really big and new features in 0.8. I am afraid they may affect user interface so I think it's good idea to review the issues at least so no such problems wil appear in the future.
Additionally I am here for discussion with you all and I am willing to test and cooperate whatever and whenever you feel is a good time to.
And finally I believe this is going to be my last request on this because I really seem to be only one in this forums having such difficulties. I am sure there are others but those I know about are not registered in this board.

thanks for the understanding

**Lastwebpage** · 22 Nov 2007, 8:23 PM

@-pv- "I really seem to be only one in this forums having such difficulties", that's not true, I know at least three other users with the same difficulties. Sorry, I have forgot the names. ;)

Maybe the solution is very easy, but the developers don't use a screen reader application.
Wait for rainwater, ghazan or one of the other miranda gurus.

Peter

**Lastwebpage** · 22 Nov 2007, 8:29 PM

@culinko,
-yes, very very short files:
(For example MSN support offline messages, and there is aplugin sendFileAsMessage, both users must use this plugin. )
-send the downloadlink to a hoster like mytemp dir
-Jabber has a "build in" option for this sendFileAsMessage plugin, look for "in band" in the jabber options.

Peter

**-pv-** · 22 Nov 2007, 8:47 PM

Originally Posted by Lastwebpage

@-pv- "I really seem to be only one in this forums having such difficulties", that's not true, I know at least three other users with the same difficulties. Sorry, I have forgot the names. ;)

Maybe the solution is very easy, but the developers don't use a screen reader application.
Wait for rainwater, ghazan or one of the other miranda gurus.

Peter

Thanks Peter for your positive comments. Of course I can wait. I have just got a feeling that by trying to post a summary of the issues I am afraid of may help developers to make somewhat more generalized point of view and slowly they may happen to be able to fix or at least consider fixing some of them.

**Seldaek** · 22 Nov 2007, 9:17 PM

Now that is very strange, I upgraded from 0.7.1 to 0.8b#2, at first it worked fine, but then I switched one of my msn accounts (I run 3 copies of the plugin) to invisible, and while it worked all day long, now that it got disconnected I can not connect anymore, no matter which status I choose. The two other accounts can still connect perfectly fine.

Honestly I have no idea what's happening, so I guess I'll wait for build#3 to see how it goes, hoping it doesn't take too long to come. I can't go back to build#1 or 0.7.3 as those doesn't recognize my profile anymore..

**borkra** · 22 Nov 2007, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by Seldaek

Now that is very strange, I upgraded from 0.7.1 to 0.8b#2, at first it worked fine, but then I switched one of my msn accounts (I run 3 copies of the plugin) to invisible, and while it worked all day long, now that it got disconnected I can not connect anymore, no matter which status I choose. The two other accounts can still connect perfectly fine.

Honestly I have no idea what's happening, so I guess I'll wait for build#3 to see how it goes, hoping it doesn't take too long to come. I can't go back to build#1 or 0.7.3 as those doesn't recognize my profile anymore..

If you are having connection problem you need post network log that captures the problem.

**Seldaek** · 22 Nov 2007, 10:02 PM

Well now things have changed, after a while of endless connection retries, it finally got back into Invisible status, but I don't see any of my contacts online, I switched to Online but it doesn't change anything, I don't see them and they don't see me (and yes, there are contacts online, I checked through IRC).

Network log you say.. I'll try to get that with Ethereal. Any details as to how to capture only miranda efficiently ?

**Monty77** · 22 Nov 2007, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Seldaek

Network log you say.. I'll try to get that with Ethereal. Any details as to how to capture only miranda efficiently ?

You won't need Ethereal for this. Have a look here:
http://wiki.miranda-im.org/Network_log

HTH

**Seldaek** · 22 Nov 2007, 10:27 PM

Okay done, I hope this doesn't contain any sensitive data, but I suppose not.. This is a log from the moment I pressed "Online" to the moment the icon turned to Offline again : http://ip.seld.be/paste/772/

And from what I see, it seems to be fine until it reaches that..

[23:20:34 MSN] RECV:240 9
[23:20:34 MSN] Server error:240 9
[23:20:34 MSN] Unprocessed error: 240 9

**borkra** · 22 Nov 2007, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seldaek

Okay done, I hope this doesn't contain any sensitive data, but I suppose not.. This is a log from the moment I pressed "Online" to the moment the icon turned to Offline again : http://ip.seld.be/paste/772/

And from what I see, it seems to be fine until it reaches that..

[23:20:34 MSN] RECV:240 9
[23:20:34 MSN] Server error:240 9
[23:20:34 MSN] Unprocessed error: 240 9

The log file you provided does not show this so please provide full network log.