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    MSN Protocol Discussion

    When posting a bug report, please post VersionInfo and Network Log (full one, from login till the bug).

    How to post these:
    http://wiki.miranda-im.org/Version_information
    http://wiki.miranda-im.org/Network_log
    Last edited by Sami; 14 Sep 2011 at 7:20 PM.

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    Just a question. Once you've said if one can add some features you have to rewrite a lot of code of the actual MSN Plugin. How long would it take to do this? What have to be changed?

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    How long will it take: it depends on the time I have.
    Which features will have to change:

    1. All contact list management
    2. Message sending receiving
    3. Authentication.
    4. A lot of commands changed format.
    This is what required to be changed for MSN8.

    Add to this that protocol is undocumented and information you find on Internet is incomplete at best.

    And it all or nothing type deal you cannot go half way.

    So the answer is few months at least.

    Although if you would like to add features which are available in MSN 7.5 you can do it relatively inexpensive.
    Last edited by borkra; 6 May 2007 at 8:37 AM.

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    Has work started on the MSN8 protocol or are you guys waiting for unofficial documents to get more complete? (Hope you don't mind me asking)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reonekot View Post
    Has work started on the MSN8 protocol or are you guys waiting for unofficial documents to get more complete? (Hope you don't mind me asking)
    Sure I started, if you would wait for documents we would never be there. The reason I mentioned luck of docs is because every little thing in this case takes crazy amount of time.
    Last edited by borkra; 6 May 2007 at 1:25 PM.

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    I believe that for now, everything really worth on 7.5 is done. Great work on MSN protocol, borkra. If only SmileyAdd could make use of Custom Smileys, sending them would be a great thing as well. But as it's not done and MSN 8 has some great features for Miranda users (like shared folders and offline message, hail microsoft for being so lazy about features implemented since ever on ICQ), MSN 8 is the next 'feature' I would like to request. :P

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    This is all planned, although it's more work than time so things coming on slow.

    In addition there is still some stuff which could be implemented in 7.5.
    1. P2P connection issues (Thread lockups, better direct connection negotiation when working with NAT).
    2. SMS support.
    3. Login dialog.
    Last edited by borkra; 9 May 2007 at 3:02 AM.

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    I don't know what you mean by login dialog, but SMS support, as a paid thing, is something I'd rather not like much.

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    SMS support is not paid by sender. It's you just enter a cell phone number on contact list and you can send messages and receive messages to/from cell phones. I am using it on AIM all the time. Very useful thing. All WLM/MSN and Gaim users have this feature for a while.

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    I am not sure about the sense of this topic... ;)

    But the only reason why I use WLM8.1 are "Alerts"

    (Who not know what is an "Alert", it's similar to RSS, but it's more individual, for example some MS forums inform you with "Alerst" if you get an answer)

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